Back from court.
Well, that was astonishingly surreal. And wrong.
Details of case are included here - if any don't want to read, stop here.
The neglect charge, now conviction, now has a stipulation of "based on the behaviors of the child",
with the neglect being that we can't keep him safe here without treatment.
That's fine.
We contested before this and were headed to jury trial. Then, "they" agreed to this stipulation, so I was willing to accept that. It's true - he can't come home without treatment, based on his own behaviors and not on anything that we did. If that's neglect, ok then.
That's not even the wrong part.
The wrong part...part #1.
Child offender's attorney argued that child not be charged with anything because, after all, he was a victim too (citing pre-age 6 abuse that he's been in years of treatment over). Attorney also requested an order that child not discuss the matter with ANYONE - most especially in any form of therapy or with police (but also including family, group home, support groups, treatment of any sort, ANYONE).
I guess my shaking head was noticed as judge requested my input - among others, I wanted to explain that Child Offender has schizophrenia and a serious thought disorder....therefore, I now understand why he's been telling everyone that nothing happened (kids all still go to school together). For him "don't talk about this at all" = "nothing ever happened". That's how his brain sees absolutes, concrete and then limiting to all or nothing. If he can't accept what happened, how can he process, move forward, and hope to not re-offend in the future??
But gosh, seems like that doesn't matter.
Because the judge actually ordered those things.
Now, you see, my Child Offender son has been PROHIBITED, BANNED, ORDERED NOT TO receive therapy for being a victim OR an offender OR anything else.
Oh...why? Because he might disclose in one of these discussions, that he's offended more than once (we have several victims who've disclosed this - but only in last few months, AFTER attorney requested this ban - therefore inadmissable?? wth??). If he discloses now, a mandated reporter would have to report it to law authorities. At 17yrs old, he could be arrested and serve jail time and have it be on his permanent record! Oh my!!!! Even the judge openly discussed that she didn't want this to happen.
Am I the only person that is far less concerned about this child's permanent record or potential jail time - and concerned about him getting help??? Or concerned for the possible persons that he likely WILL harm in the future??
You know those Dateline type tv shows where they discuss an offender who had "signs in his childhood pointing toward" his adult crime? They always wonder why the parents didn't get him help? I wonder how many of those parents sat in courtrooms like we did today, baffled that the legal system that we turned to for helping our abused and abusing children was actually allowing the parents to be called abusers and having it ordered that the child never receive a bit of help.
OK....super ridiculous part #2:
Offender Child turns 18 this summer. He can then sign himself back into foster care until age 21. At this point, through Arizona Young Adult Program, he will be eligible for free housing/apartment, free college, and other living expenses. Honestly, I think it's a decent program. No complaints there.
However, when he went into placement here, our adoption subsidy funds were moved from us back to the state to cover his care. (Interesting that we're still being asked to provide for all of his needs, to the tune of several hundred per month. We could refuse - but we don't. Because the truth is, we have the right to refuse - and they still have the right to take our kids, having an open case - we're trying to just not rock the boat. So we pay.) So, that's all well and good. BUT, when he's 18, his subsidy eligibility ends and the state will not receive the subsidy (it's own money anyway, but...) - and we, lucky parents, will then be asked to pay child support for this child - several hundred dollars per month, until he leaves the program or turns 21. The kid will be 18, getting NO help, getting thousands in freebies, and we get to pay a bunch for this privelege.
Sadly, when he becomes a repeat rapist or offender, I will be first in line to say to the state "I told you so"....and beyond grieving for the victim, because maybe, just maybe, it could have been prevented. We'll never know.
I'm really sick to my stomach over all of it.
And then I come home to a Victim child who has written in sharpie all over the bunkbeds - "MY BED ONLY! STAY OFF MEAN GUYS!" I will keep fighting - but where, who. At least this kid gets awesome therapy and is NOT prevented from talking about problems. Maybe ONE kid won't turn into eventual offender? I don't know....I had prayed so for the above child. I pray...but my faith doesn't seem to be increasing.....
Hanging out in my house, the child abusing mom and her 12 awesome kids. Writing my blog. Reading email from an adult daughter who has put us thru the wringer perhaps more than any other - with another apology and expression of love - and my wry smile just isn't quite sure what to tell her anymore either....
Oh - and had a decent "girl argument" with the CPS worker when we left as well. Girl arguments are where you pretend to talk really sweetly and, to outsiders (or Steve, who was listening) it may seem as if you're getting along - but you're really, really, really not. lol. I WILL be appealing the CPS decisions.....which are ENTIRELY separate, and have NOTHING to do with, legal decisions........but CPS decisions are the ones that most affect your future abilities to work in the schools with your kids, coach your daughters team, or possibly - which were my career aspirations - become a teacher or therapist or adoption advocate. Funny. Huh? Anyway....when Steve figured out we weren't getting along after all, and Worker Lady drove away, he said "So, you got your balls back!" Yep....I think I'm finding a set...gotta re-learn how to use 'em right maybe...
12 comments:
Praying for you. As long as you are getting them back.make them brass ones. {{{Hugs}}}
So absolutly sorry to hear this outcome...
You have no idea how mad it makes me. You my friend are muchs stronger than I.
I wish there was something I could do, or help, or say. I will pray.
Why do they treat adoptive parents like this? Why do they treat the other sibs like this?
and why are they preventing this poor soul from getting any help?
and why do they punish you all more.
and how many kids end up loosing homes and staying in the system because of this?
why do they hurt people so much?
they are never even this mean, cruel, evil to bio parents... hardly ever...
I've been sitting here, staring at your post for the longest time, wanting to make a supportive and encouraging comment, but I don't even know what to say.
I don't understand why the system is so broken that parents are continually blamed when a child acts out, isn't safe at home, and the parents beg for help.
Although I can understand why the judge wants to protect the offending child from future convictions, I think that banning the child from discussing the case (and therefore seeking therapy or treatment) is ludicrous. Yes, steering him away from a future jail term is a laudable goal, but if the price is that he will re-offend later, I'm not sure that the cost was worth escaping jail now.
I'm sorry the system is so broken. I wish had something better to say to you. Just know that you are in my thoughts.
That is truly awful. I pray for you.
Oh my. I'm so sorry. There is much wrong with a system that treats the parent this way just because they are trying to get help for a disturbed child. Unfortunately it happens to many adoptive parents.
You have been through so much over the past year or so. Hopefully the rest of the year will bring a little more peace. As always, thinking of you and sending you strength. xoxo
I am so sorry. I know this dance with CPS SWs too well.
I am so sorry! We were where you are about 2 years ago. Athough child had been in RTC when he began acting out and grooming and all that yuck (the reports stated 30 sexual acts a week while in RTC). Insurance refused to pay and was going to send him home. We have 11 children younger and smaller than him and we said no. We ended up going to court and asking that he be put in DCS custody (so insurance would pay for RTC for Perps). It worked. We imagined being charged with abanodonment (as you mention it would have been bad...but not as bad as having something horrible happen!). We were very lucky to have a judge who ordered him into DCS custody, did not make us pay child support (they calculated 1,300 a month) and he was there when we were forced to relinquish custody last month. DCS said bring him home or sign. We signed with the judge telling us not to be discouraged that sometimes these things happen. I can only say that THIS TIME we were so very blessed!! I will be praying for you all!!
Blessings,
Amanda
The whole court thing was ridiculous. It does not make any sense to me that the judge (or anyone else for that matter) didn't think this boy needed some long-term therapy. And, you're right, it wouldn't surprise me if he did not become a repeat offender. He has yet to look at his problem and you know what they say, "..... if there is no change in thought pattern, he is bound to be a repeat offender.."
Oh Therea, I'm just so sorry. The whole way juvinile sex offenders are dealt with is just crazy. I'll be praying for all of you.
I'm glad you can find a smile - albeit a wry one within all of this madness. Why do I get the feeling (based on many, many experiences) that we, as adoptive parents, as undermined at every turn? I have a son who can sit and joke with his psychiatrist and a random counselor (at a program we desperately wanted to get him into - and didn't) about how he loses his voice after several hours of screaming and raging while I sit there with my mouth hanging open - completely incredulous that ANYONE could find the slightest thing funny about an almost 17 yo who must be supervised 24/7 and holds his family hostage in their own home with his outbursts. He emotionally abuses us all and then can find the humor in his behavior? WTH???? It surprised me speechless the first time it happened, but then about 2 weeks later it happened again and the psychiatrist got the brunt of my anger over this. When are these "professionals" going to get it? These kids do not process info. the same way neurotypically, non-traumatized kids do. Our concrete thinkers equal these decisions to not talk about it or joke about it (minimizing all of OUR and OUR OTHER CHILDRENS pain) as "no big deal". They should be held accountable, be it jail time, or increased services, therapy, etc. but instead are given even more opportunities to victimize others.
You having to pay for over 3 more years is nonsense. You didn't cause him these problems - as you said yourself, he was abused before age 6, they should be able to go back and take his bio-families tax refunds or something to defray the costs. First, there's no help available because of budget cuts (at least in MI this is always the case) then they'll help, but you have to foot the bill? Makes me want to scream.
Love the girly fights - I'm rooting for YOU!
Sometimes we watch movies that are so bad, so so rediculous that one of us - a kid or me - will turn to another and say, "I just got dumber."
I would say your latest court time would be under that heading. You could turn to your ex and say, "I just wasted my time, and I just got dumber thanks to Arizona and their social services."
Wow! I am appalled!! I'm a regular reader and don't usually comment, but I feel compelled to this time. How could the attorney AND the judge possibly think it was in the best interest of the child not to receive therapy for such a serious problem!!! Let alone the best interest of all the future victims.... No wonder you changed the blog background--I'm seeing red too!!! Is there anyone you can report this travesty to, like the bar association or a higher up judge? Maybe the National Coalition for Child Protection Reform ( http://nccpr.info ) could help? Truly the CPS system in this country is broken.
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